[chrisseaton]

> Here in Toronto area, most of the big food outlets are closed, because they are not able to get workers.

Huh that surprises me. Here in the UK the big food outlets have gone on a big hiring spree to keep up with the extra demand from people all eating at home.

[calvinbhai]

Need to go off on a tangent to reply.

Canada is showering it's unemployed citizens with something similar to $2000 per month unemployment benefits.

That's $12.5 per hr for not working, while (minimum wage in Ontario) is $14 per hr.

Why would anyone work to get $1.5 per hr extra? When you can stay home and get the free money? (in fact other provinces, $12.5 per hr is above minimum wage).

Having something like this for a month or two was probably fine, but right now Canada is paying it's residents to not work while grocery stores / warehouses are not finding enough workers.

I was tilting positive of UBI until I saw the effects of this $2K per month scheme in Canada.

To immediately solve the problem, Canada can continue giving $2K per month to those who are unemployed, but working in a necessary occupation (say grocery stores, deliveries, warehouses) wouldn't disqualify them from getting the $2K, with a caveat that there's no minimum wage. At that point it's a two sided bidding with grocery stores going lower and workers increasing their bids. At some rate (say $5 per hr or $10 per hr) there's a right balance for supply/demand of labor.

[wdb]

In London McDonalds, Nando's etc were all closed, even most restaurants in China Town are closed. Which food outlets are you referring too?

[chrisseaton]

Waitrose, Marks and Spencer, high street takeaways, restaurants doing delivery, for example are all open in my village. But we don't have any Deliveroo, UberEats, etc, coverage where I live as it's the North.

[myth_drannon]

People if they don't have a car, are afraid to take public transportation to go to work. The same happens with some food factories, 10x more orders but half the people are refusing to go back to work.