[DamnYuppie]

Brutal winters though if you are coming from CA.

Honestly one of the under rated large cities in the US is Cleveland. I have had to travel a lot for work over the years and was impressed by the dining options available and the general togetherness of the community there. Again winters...bad...

[cpitman]

I grew up wearing shorts while there was snow on the ground, but Cleveland was the first city where I understood why scarves and gloves are a thing. Brutally cold wind.

But on the flipside, their street maintenance was amazing. It was snowing almost all the time during the winter, but the road were always clear.

[asdff]

Grew up there. They plow the roads then don't fix the potholes the plows make lol. The infrastructure maintenance budgets are shoestrings because the city lost 60% of its population over the past 50 years.