[fosk]

Well for starters, not allowing open air drug dealing and arresting illegal drug dealers in the streets. Cooperating with ICE, and so on. Starting to take action against homeless that do refuse housing because they enjoy the homeless lifestyle, which in turn will make it less attractive for non-native homeless to come to San Francisco.

[renewiltord]

Cooperating with ICE to send these people back to America where they come from? My, my, San Francisco’s atavistic parochialism is really something but calling ones fellow Americans illegal immigrants. That’s good.

[aaomidi]

I knew these comments are racist dog whistles. It's so sad how San Francisco went from the cradle of counter culture to...this.

[fosk]

If there is no housing available, then why are illegal immigrants tolerated which would arguably make the problem worse? It makes no sense.

[renewiltord]

Because no one can demonstrate it makes an appreciable impact, and the cost is that we get ghettos where no one will report crime. So we don’t do it.

[fosk]

So - as a result of your logic - you suggest that we allow crime and illegal aliens?

We know it does make an impact because the police department regularly arrests them (since they cause negativities in the community) and regularly the courts release them so that they can go back to the same street corner to keep selling death.

San Francisco truly is a law-less place.

[aaomidi]

Applying "illegal" to someone who is in your country without __papers please__, is just so astonishing to me.

Why on earth do you give a shit who lives where in the world? I've immigrated to the US, legally, gone through all the paperwork and expenses. I don't give a fuck if "illegal" immigrants exist.

I will continue to advocate for them and vote for policies that keep them safe.

[fosk]

Illegal immigrants do not have lawful ways to find a job. They will either get abused in one way or another, or they will start looking at illegal activities to survive (ie, drug dealing).

Encouraging illegal immigration - like you are suggesting by enabling them to come to San Francisco - not only is dangerous for the community but it is first and foremost dangerous for those people who come here thinking it's paradise on earth and end up being taken advantage of.

You are irresponsible. There are reasons why there are lawful ways to immigrate, it is not a game.

[renewiltord]

You get rid of illegal immigrants on the street and you won't move the needle on crime. Listen, I'm not interested in you blowing my money on vanity projects.

[fosk]

We have been blowing up hundreds of millions of dollars on existing vanity projects for 40 years [1] we might as well try something new and - perhaps - enforce some law and order in a lawless and dangerous city.

None of the existing policies are helping moving the needle on crime, while arresting drug dealers and deporting illegal aliens that perform criminal activities will help with the goal of having less criminals and less drugs in the streets.

My son - native San Franciscan - dodges needles every day at the park. What happens if he gets hurt or catches a disease? Do you think this is the future he deserves? Criminals belong to prison.

[1] - https://sf.curbed.com/2019/12/19/21027974/san-francisco-home...