[ltbarcly3]

This is the opposite of what is true. When you have no rights and no constitution, the people who have control will use that control to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else. They'll enforce policies that cause starvation and deprivation, often without even realizing they are doing so - there is no way for information to flow efficiently, and regional authorities only answer to the central authority and not at all to the people in their administrative area so they hide bad news.

People use the USSR in WW2 as an example of where central planning led to success, after all they mobilized the entire country for war and eventually won. However, the entire Soviet army was destroyed multiple times. Putting on a Russian army uniform was basically the same as suicide. The rest of the world didn't have the power to force their citizens into certain death, and as a result they thought harder and were able to find ways to fight the war without 90% casualty rates and having entire divisions destroyed to the last man.

Having to answer to your citizens leads you to be more prepared and more responsive to problems, not less.

[sacks2k]

"This is the opposite of what is true. When you have no rights and no constitution, the people who have control will use that control to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else."

This was my point. The only reason the USSR is better 'prepared' for anything is because they can make choices that countries like the US can't, at the expense of human lives.

"People use the USSR in WW2 as an example of where central planning led to success"

This is a good example of success in a country that doesn't care about human life.

USSR total deaths in WW2: 24 million United States: 418,000

I think we agree.

[ltbarcly3]

If the USSR was organized like the US, they wouldn't have had 1/3 of the country die, and they wouldn't have had to have 10-1 advantages to win battles.

The USSR was lucky to survive WW2 at all. They did almost everything they could to lose the war, from purging almost all the competent officers to allowing basically the entire army to be destroyed in Poland. If you took the USSR, and swapped in a democratic government in 1920, they would have escaped the war with 1/10th as many casualties. Maybe they would have surrendered, maybe they would have never been attacked, but in the end the 22 million extra people who died would not have had to.

Your argument comes down to 'only a dictatorship can throw 1/3 of the population into a meat grinder while the others quietly watch' and I'm saying 'only a dictatorship can do that, but only a dictatorship ever has to do that'.