[drchopchop]

I've spent a fair amount of time at the Sofitel in Redwood Shores, and I'd often chat with Oracle "sales engineers" at the bar. A simple "so, what do you work on" question would inevitably generate an hour's worth of them explaining some convoluted acronym-heavy product with a pushy sales model, and I'd eventually be like "ok... so it's a database?".

[arethuza]

To be fair to Oracle (not something I say very often) - I suspect most of their sales are business applications (ERP, CRM, financial) that happen to use their database engine as a back end.

[cryptonector]

At Oracle everything uses Oracle DBs. Their bug DB is a thin layer on top of an Oracle DB. Their email server too. Everything that can be a thin layer on top of Oracle... is.