[kelnos]

> Disclaimer that I use similar remarks to the quote you disagree with. This is with the understanding that the price that needs to be paid will literally take lives at times

I guess it's easy to make those kinds of remarks when you know you won't be the one paying that price, huh?

[withdavidli]

I put zero reliance on external forces making the change I want to see and make decisions without this being a factor. It cuts out false hope.

If I'm not willing to pay the price, I should not expect change.