[dwohnitmok]

> everything is a map

This I strongly agree with. Clojure's insistence on carrying through with its core immutable collections everywhere it can is a defining feature of the language IMO.

I mean at the end of the day we're talking about personal influence so I can't really argue with you thinking that what I'm talking about is random.

Nonetheless personally I don't find the JVM to be a definitional feature of Clojure. E.g. Clojurescript feels just as Clojure-y to me as JVM Clojure.

Likewise I think simplicity is in the eyes of the beholder.

Personally I think (the current presentation of) transducers and core.async are both too complex (and in the former's case complected to use a Clojure-ism).

The latter I think is better served by manifold and the former, man I really need to write this up at some point since this keeps coming up, but transducers don't need to be higher order functions on reducers. Every transducer is exactly equivalent to a function from a -> List b (again yes this presentation is agnostic of source and therefore holds even for something like channels despite the presence of a concrete list). The only thing that you get from its presentation as a higher order function is reusing function composition which I view as bearing all the hallmarks of complection. It goes the "opposite" direction you'd expect and it's hardly ever used as "function" composition (when's the last time you composed a transducer with something that wasn't another transducer?).