[OrgNet]

but Google and Apple have all that information already and the big pipe to the government is still open... just stop ignoring facts?

[kinkrtyavimoodh]

All the more reason to not give that data to the government, right, if they don't already have it?

[OrgNet]

Why would you recommend to use company "A" just because it doesn't need to have data "D" to provide feature "X" if it has access to data "D" through other means anyways and they share it anyways with the other entity Government "G" that you are so much against using secret laws...