| > everyone hopes to docker-ify everything It's actually k8s-ifying everything (docker-ifying was 2015-2018). > nobody really embraces the zen of devops I know exactly what you mean, as am struggling to get people around me understand the value of tooling, developer delight but to no avail. Management, other non-tech teams (sales, product, Ops etc) that have learn/worked mostly in regimented setups have a long long way to go before they even start to understand what DevOps really was supposed to be - all about actionable faster feedback loops. But, faster, actionable feedback loops also bring out the the orgs's / dept's systemic rot/muck in policies/deficiencies/politics and make it visible in-the-face. That's very threatening to many who put up a make-believe fakeshow that "our stuff's all cool, that other team/dept has all the problems". Hence, all that pushback against the new or throwing the tool in (docker/k8s/cloud) and claim that it would act as deep magic to fix the fuckery happening all over. I learnt it over my exp at big, small, medium sized firms - over last 15+ yrs. Only way to get to achieve DevOps (yeah, not "adopt"; one can't just 'adopt' that) is to get CTO/COO/CFO to really really understand the value. Else, lost causes! |