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by dba7dba 2241 days ago
Have you watched the 3 interviews? I'm not picking a fight nor judging. Just curious. I called them interviews but really they are like lectures in my opinion. The doctors speak most of the time.

I'm not a doctor but I figure doctors are too busy collecting/digesting data to publish quality papers? Especially when new data is being generated at a fast rate?

There is an issue of many research papers covering Covid-19 not getting enough peer review before being made available to public and covered by news media.

Prof Kim's called this a "Thesis Pandemic", a flood of Covid-19 related research papers being put out by researchers that get covered by new media before they are peer reviewed. And apparently many of the papers are made public by the researchers without enough data to really back up their thesis.

Because the virus is so new, there is really not enough data. And the researchers are doing their best to help with finding treatment, but apparently many of the papers are not peer reviewed enough before being picked out by news media to be covered.

I did google and found a few reading material below but not sure if it's what you are looking for.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0251_article

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No, I haven't, because I don't want to spend my time watching videos; not only are they agonizingly slow, they are also a medium actively hostile to quantitative data and critical analysis, which is perhaps why the news media is so fond of them. (I don't want to pick a fight either, but I sure as hell am judging!)

Everything you say is true, except that mostly doctors are not busy collecting data, but rather treating patients.

You may have intended to link a different paper; the one you linked is about Gansu in China, not Korea, and does not mention rt-PCR, false positives, viral RNA, or reinfection or recurrence. It does mention "secondary infection" and "secondary cases", but, as it explains, that means people who were infected within the study region by other people ("indigenous"), rather than coming into the region from outside ("imported").

1. Googled "Korea University Medicine covid-19 papers" and found below 2 links. Professor Kim in video 1 and 2 is from Korea University.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.15.20036368v...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S120197122...

2. Also found below link on cnn.com

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/8/20-1274_article

Yah my quick search didn't return much on papers discussing false positives, viral RNA, or reinfection or recurrence. I'm guessing it's too new for formal papers.

I should've said doctors are busy treating patients and researchers are busy collecting data.

3. But I did find below article posted 12 hrs ago

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-so...

South Korean expert panel has concluded that dead virus fragments were the likely cause of more than 290 people in the country testing positive after recovery for coronavirus.

4. The 2 videos with subtitles can be consumed fast if you skip forward a few seconds at a time as you can read English subtitles. Commenters also posted helpful summaries so you can get to just the topic you are interested.