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by take_a_breath 2246 days ago
==Based on the drop in cases==

Friday and Saturday saw the highest single day totals of new cases.

==ludicrously low infection and death rates==

Nobody knows these rates because we can’t test enough people to know infection rates. People are dying at home so it will be a while until we know actual death rates.

==speedy development of herd immunity==

You and your family should jump to the front line and help build this immunity. I’ll protect my 2 year-old and pregnant wife in our home.

All we have to do is look to the 1918 flu to see the danger of opening up too soon. Making up strawman quotes from your “opposition” doesn’t change the data on this virus or the history of past viruses.

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New cases are really pretty meaningless considering the confounding variable of increased testing. New hospitalizations is a much more reliable statistic, followed by new deaths, both of which are down in many (most?) states. In New York for example, new hospitalizations have been decreasing for 15 days.
> You and your family should jump to the front line and help build this immunity. I’ll protect my 2 year-old and pregnant wife in our home.

This is exactly how the pandemic should have been handled. Personal risk should have been allowed to be determined by the individual, not the state, at the expense of personal rights.

The obvious flaw is that we know people can be asymptomatic carriers. That means they can put others at risk which violates the personal rights of those individuals.

This also can’t be done without significant testing which still isn’t available 9 weeks after declaring a public health emergency.

If think you at risk then you stay at home. If you force other to stay at home you too violates the personal rights of those individuals.
The Patriot Act violates my personal right to secrecy. Stop lights violate my personal right to cross intersections as I please. And on and on.

Welcome to civilized society, sorry it's such an inconvenience.

Yes, In a society, a right is being uphold because the side who support it, successfully fight and defend it.

>The Patriot Act violates my personal right to secrecy. Stop lights violate my personal right to cross intersections as I please. And on and on.

You don't have those right because you fail to successfully fight and defend it

Thats why elon musk is making the tweet, to fight and defend his rights.

Welcome to society, sorry it work that way.

Well, he won't get that right. People are not stupid enough.
>You and your family should jump to the front line and help build this immunity

Yes by allowing people to go outside, work and do their normal activity. It builds their and other people immune system. Prolong lockdown will cause immune system to go down.

We are on HN, not on a forum on healthy diet and recipe with this "bolster immune system" nonsense (that i accept reading on those forums). If something seems logical and simple, it just means you have to do your own research.

Either you are immunodepressed or you are not. Well, actually you can have an hyperactive immune system, that's what Dr house call a lupus, or a cykotine storm.

Really fast and with no details : You can boost your protective response going out and interacting with other people/kids but this will not boost your immune system. I understand this is an easy confusion as the protective response is caused by the immune system but i assure you, this is not the same thing.