[BerkhanBerkdemi]

I still don't understand why people are moving from G products and use Apple+self-hosted? The author is saying he is hosting the e-mail server but, for example, not an iCal server.

[louismerlin]

Google has no problem browsing through your data to serve you "better" advertisement, while Apple claims to respect your privacy (I would be tempted to believe them).

[RealStickman_]

Note that Apple respecting your privacy only applies in countries where they can continue to do business after refusing government requests.

[three_seagrass]

A good summary here for anyone doubting you: https://www.wired.com/story/apple-china-censorship-apps-flag...

[ocdtrekkie]

Perhaps, but then we can characterize the following, considering Google's aggressive opposition to GDPR and CCPA:

Apple respects your privacy everywhere they're legally able to.

Google violates your privacy everywhere they're legally able to.

[ariejan]

Mail in a box comes with Nextcloud for contacts/calendaring, well, out of the box.

[geekgonecrazy]

Yes definitely comes with. Seems to be a stripped down nextcloud or owncloud. Not sure which. I forgot to mention this.

It’s definitely something I’ll probably look at

[saagarjha]

(Isn’t it technically an “iCalendar server”, as iCal is the name for the client that Apple used to make?)