[throwaway_12351]

It's very condescending to say "I am doing this because I am pro-labor", as if, we the other users of Amazon are not pro-labor and don't care about their labour practices, and assumes that we can't read and comprehend. We all have worked at companies where you will have a set of disgruntled employees, and more so in places with more than half a million employees. The whole anti-Amazon narrative is trying to hold Amazon to higher standards using Guardian which itself doesn't have high standards for it's core journalism.

[uoaei]

> as if, we the other users of Amazon are not pro-labor and don't care about their labour practices

My intention is not to push this narrative. All of us compromise every day on our values, and some matter more to us than others. Personally I thought I'd never drive a fossil-fuel-based vehicle but that quickly became impractical as my priorities called me beyond a 10-mile radius around my home.

> trying to hold Amazon to higher standards

Do you think Amazon is held to high standards already? I hold them to mediocre standards because I understand they have to compete on an absolutely massive scale in an industry with razor thin margins. But even so, they're not doing all that well. Amazon's coffers are so full they can't re-invest their capital fast enough. So I don't see how anyone can argue that it's bad for society to treat employees as if they're humans who can catch & spread a virus and/or die.

[throwaway_12351]

Yes, I do think Amazon is held to pretty high standards. I have seen more outrage for people who won't work at Amazon complain about the work conditions at Amazon than the actual employees themselves. If your defense is that they might not want to then you need to check your moral high ground.

If Amazon does indeed engage in illegal behavior, then one should be hell bent on calling them out but the whole raging behavior at all times drains the emotional bank and when the actual crimes occur people don't have appetite for it.

[cycomanic]

I don't think anyone is saying that what amazon is doing is necessarily illegal, one can still strongly disagree.

And even if amazon is held to a higher standard (which is a big if), considering that they are by quite a margin the biggest player so what they do creates a signal to all other players about what is acceptable. Moreover with their profits they could afford to treat their employees well.

[uoaei]

What people are (or at least, I am) saying is that yes this behavior is technically legal, and that's a problem for those who care about human dignity and the ideal of the social contract.