[1propionyl]

> Now, no one likes thinking about this, but is another 32K deaths worth fully re-opening NYC and getting rid of social distancing? I think it is arguable to say yes, just as it is arguable to say no.

Would you hold the same position if you knew you would be one of those deaths? Or if you knew your mother or father or child would be?

Are you personally willing to die to reopen NYC?

[dannyw]

No, I don't want to die. But we can't take the perspective of aiming for 0 deaths. If so, we'd never ever ever leave our homes.

We won't have cars. We won't have alcohol. We won't have sex (STDs). We won't even have exercise, because exercise sometimes kills.

In 2015, 57 million died in the world. We need to put that into perspective.

[zaroth]

Many people have and will die because NYC is closed. As the potential and projected harm of COVID diminishes dramatically, the harms of shutdown and isolation only continue to compound.

A lot of cancer patients have missed chemo. A lot of brain surgeries rescheduled. A lot of stokes and heart attacks went untreated. And so on...

Here’s an excellent summary from a Stanford doctor;

https://nypost.com/2020/04/26/science-says-its-time-to-start...

Even though it should have been obvious from the beginning, now that it has become increasingly obvious that only those at the highest risk should self isolate, the vast majority of people should get back to work, life, and their regular medical treatments.