[jen20]

> FYI they probably don't have the capability to do a whole lot with location data anyhow.

The only “capability” required is the ability to pay a Palantir invoice and ship data to them.

The UK is another good example of a western country which has attempted to use the COVID-19 crisis to extend government power - it is naive _in the extreme_ to believe that every other western government is not doing the same when this behaviour has not been demonstrated in the past 20 years.

[jariel]

It is naive _in the extreme_ to sit locked in one's home, in the greatest curtailment of civil liberties in human history, while the economy is a patient with heart failure, about to die, with the largest bailouts (Trillions!!) in history and then only enough to hold on for a 'few more weeks' - and then have as a 'primary concern' some, specific umbrage with the privacy of data by some gov agency, which is secondary in the first place because it has nothing to do with contact tracing, probably would be illegal for the gov. to use it, and even if they did, it probably won't cause any short term harm.

It's completely irrational to the point wherein the issue of interest really boils down to how people could have such a perspective in the first place.

Though there are 'concerns' obviously, and certainly 'some' impropriety will take place, and 'some' government will behave poorly, it's conspiratorial _in the extreme_ to suggest that 'every other government' is going to turn their country into China and to illegally and inappropriately just turn their countries into Big Brother.

The 'game has changed' - fundamentally and existentially.

For the next few years at least, there is a completely different context for everything. Everything.

People are going to have to adjust their thinking.