[parasubvert]

Part of the reason that DevOps culture became a professional movement was to treat both as an end-to-end problem.

Which stops misunderstandings like throwing the code to “Ops” and expecting the VMware admin to understand how an app behaves.

User response time is a fairly simple metric to measure if you’re a developer. They should expose that, and other metrics, that the customer values.

This is one of the reason I’ve enjoyed some “true” agile teams with a strong product owner: they encourage an end-to-end focus on outcomes.

[stainforth]

I feel like Jonathan Blow's jai language looks to do things like this as part of the language, at least to the developer.