[janee]

> it's a way to evaluate engineers, not create a good product.

Gonna play devils advocate here...would those two be mutually exclusive?

I feel there's a fundamental flaw in the garden of agile eden you initially described and that's trust...if you don't have it or lose it then gl trying to convince someone to essentially write a blank cheque for something they don't understand

If trust can erode a whole methodology then it's something to consider imo