[nabnob]

Denmark is also a capitalist country. Social democracy (having a free market while also having nationalized healthcare and a strong social safety net) isn't the same thing as socialism (where the state is run by the proletariat and exists to eradicate the bourgeoisie). Right now, there isn't a single socialist government in the world.

[nsfyn55]

Right just like there are no capitalist nations in the world. Because no nation is a completely unregulated hellscape governed by pirate kings. Spare me the semantics.

[nabnob]

It's not semantics. Capitalism doesn't mean an 'unregulated hellscape', capitalism requires a state to exist in order to defend the right to hold private property. In capitalist countries, the legal system functions mainly as a way to defend the rights of corporations, with occasional compromises to prevent an uprising (e.g., $1200 checks during the covid pandemic). If police didn't exist, corporations would have to hire private security to defend their property - and in fact, this is what they did during the 1800's.

For an example of what an "unregulated hellscape" looks like, take a look at the world of cryptocurrency and how common it is for people to get all of their property stolen.

[nsfyn55]

>Capitalism doesn't mean an 'unregulated hellscape', capitalism requires a state to exist in order to defend the right to hold private property

Oh look everyone its another armchair economist who insists his conveniently specific definition of capitalism(You know the one that must be the case so his beliefs are not a self-inconsistent train wreck) is the absolute definition handed down to us by the word pope and sourced from a magic dictionary stored under his papal throne. The first time in the history of the internet.

According to my alternative word pope if every bit of ownership isn't private and it isn't devoid of regulation it can't be considered capitalism. See how easy it is to make up a definition then argue from it like its gospel.

Alternatively you could accept the much more reasonable circumstance that economies are messy things. Although some stress one economic principle more than another none can be purist in nature.

[hpoe]

Well under that definition Socialism has never existed because there has never been a state run by the proletariat, although sometimes people masquerade under the banner of the proletariat to increase their own personal power, i.e. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.