[yokaze]

I am relying here on Google translate, so I might miss something. That mortality in the article is about patients being in ICU, but not every patient in intensive care is intubated. Actually, to my knowledge, doctors are now avoiding intubation as long as possible, which explains the "increased" mortality rate.

You can see it the other way around, of those people, where they didn't see any other possibility, they still manage to save 1 in 10 with intubation.

[ejolto]

Google translate is correct. I was going to make the same comment, the article is talking about ICU patients and does not mention if they were intubated or not. The 175 patients in the study might not have been put on ventilators, the article does not specify!

[ffyring]

I will try to find a source, but AFAIK (and checked with a doctor) only patients that need intubation currently get ICU treatment in Sweden.

[evgen]

I think the question was not how many patients that need intubation are in the ICU but how many patients in the ICU need intubation. I think the suggestion is that the first number is 100% while the second is much lower until you hit a point where ICU beds are so full that only to most critical cases are put into the ICU.

[ffyring]

Yes, agree that there is a difference. Regarding Sweden, it seems like all patients in ICU are intubated. An explanation might be that because of the low number of ICU beds in Sweden only people deemed to have a fair chance of survival is admitted.

[1] is the ICU register that gives some statistics, e.g. that median age is 60 years and 25% of patients don't have any risk factor.

[1] https://www.icuregswe.org/data--resultat/covid-19-i-svensk-i...

[chvid]

In Denmark most patient in intensive care are in respirators. Sweden is probably similar.