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by 4h53n 2244 days ago
I do agree with your overall suggestion, but it would be a mission impossible to change sockets. Indeed, technology for communication over power-lines are nothing new, and doesn't require a new socket/wiring: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-line_communication

A grid supply status, could empower next gen energy saving home appliances. This could be implemented as simple as pricing, the ultimate incentive. Price would fluctuate on the wire, just like it does for energy market.

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> it would be a mission impossible to change sockets

Why? I lived through one such change in last 30 years (switching from 2-pole europlugs to CEE 7/7). They are backward-compatible, but so would be the usb+power plugs.

We also switched from 60 Hz 240V to 50Hz 230V some time in 00s (don't remember exacty, it was a non-event).

As for incentives new electronic devices should simply be reqired to have these plugs and microcontrollers, like now we require them to have fuses and certain wire gauge, etc.

Why depend on a hack when you can do it right?

Adding a data bus to all lines would be a much bigger deal than changing sockets for existing lines or running a slightly different voltage (often within tolerance of the power supplies anyway!) over the same wires.

And USB isn't meant to operate over those long distances. So you'd either need some active component in each socket or devise a new standard.

It doesn't have to be usb, maybe ethernet would work? Or something new if needed.

Rewiring might be a problem (but it was the same with adding a ground wire).

If we have to we can do the data-over-power between the sockets, and use data lines from sockets to devices.

This would ensure devices don't have to adapt to that hack and eventually we'll have a clean solution.