[testing312]

> I'm not a religious person, but the thing that the anti-religion movements have failed spectacularly at is providing a universal, teachable framework for basic morality.

But there is no universal, teachable framework for basic morality. Even the seemingly most basic rule: don't hurt anyone, has so many exceptions.

There is no 'small' set of rules you can use to describe morality. Reality is messy, human interactions even more so. We need to teach people to be empathic, and to be willing to try and understand the others position and view

[pmiller2]

Indeed, religions also disagree amongst themselves what is right and wrong. This has been a primary source of conflict throughout human history. Many times, both sides believe God (or whatever their equivalent is) is on their side.