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You've heard of the FISA Court right? And all the details that Snowden released about it? How do you see those secret requests as not effectively the same thing as what you are describing about China's laws?

I don't consider myself a tin-foil-hat wearing type, but even I don't believe that our (western/NATO/5-Eyes etc) governments don't have their own secret powers they can use to compel businesses to comply with information gathering requests without divulging that they did so.