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by gridlockd 2245 days ago
> At the moment it is getting taken from me. I can see it in my accounting. So don't tell me it isn't when it very clearly is.

I didn't say that. Read the sentence again. It is not only taken from you. Sure, you pay taxes, but the government is also getting deeper and deeper into debt, because your taxes aren't enough. Who is going to pay for that? Well, you, as long as your alive, then your children, if you have any. Or maybe you'll be poorer through inflation. You need to look beyond taxes and start looking at debt. Taxation is (politically) hard, debt is easy.

> I am not saying it should be fair, I am saying that in principle it is wrong....

It's only wrong because it is unfair. Same difference.

> This does however require you to read up on things, and take responsibility and think ahead.

Oh sure. Most likely, you'll be wiped out easy as soon as some minor crisis shows up at the door. There's a major recession unfolding right now, perhaps it hasn't hit you yet. You'll lose all your money, your pension, and then you'll wish you had your protected salary at some "too big to fail" company, or maybe some government desk job. You can barely afford real estate, so the risk you are taking is in no proportion to the reward. I wish it'd be different, but I didn't make the rules.

> The reality is that some people will have to work jobs they don't like. I've done it. That still isn't exploitation, it is called life mate.

Dude, you're from the UK, your worst case scenario is being on unemployment benefits. You effectively have a social safety net, you can just stop pontificating about the people who don't have one. If your options are "be out on the street" or "work 60hrs in a dead-end job for the rest of your life", it's a little bit different.

> No you must understand we have to end collusion between Government and Business. UBI will make people more dependant on Government. Once that is ended, if the job is uneconomical and there is no corporatism the problem will resolve itself as eventually businesses will have to innovate their processes if they want to stay competitive.

The whole argument to keep these companies alive is to protect jobs. If we have it your way, a lot of people will be unemployed. Maybe in the UK that's not such a big deal, but only because there is a welfare system.

Just admit that your idea of good politics is putting people out in the street and let them figure it all out. Apart from that, we're probably on the same page.

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> Just admit that your idea of good politics is putting people out in the street and let them figure it all out. Apart from that, we're probably on the same page.

When people like yourself start putting words into my mouth. It is time not to bother conversing any longer. Goodbye.

> When people like yourself start putting words into my mouth

I'm only replying in kind. Haven't you noticed?

I dunno what you are trying to prove. I haven't been rude.