[oehpr]

I wanted to give everyone a heads up here, this is genuinely a terrible site. I like the things mozilla does more generally. But this site...

These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings.

General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it, and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is this product affordable?" "Yes." All stand in's for good. So if you ask a general user if something is creepy, the answer you will get back is either "It's good" or "It's bad".

These aren't products that meet rigorous privacy guidelines, or are open source, or products from companies that go out of their way to keep their services zero-knowledge. This is a popularity contest page. This is not the place to get advice on privacy respecting products.

Take note on what guidelines Mozilla here seems to establish, one of them is hilariously: "Privacy Policy. Yes they have one"

[connor4312]

Also, you have to vote on a product to see its "creepiness" rating breakdown? I would supposedly be using this site before purchasing a product, how would I know how "creepy" it is? This site seems more akin to a Buzzfeed quiz than a Mozilla project.

That said I think this idea has a lot of potential, but this is perhaps not the best form for it to take.

[someguy101010]

I feel infantalized after looking at that site, maybe I'm not the target audience but the people that this is targeting I would imagine feel like that too.

[SheinhardtWigCo]

It makes sense if you consider it as a piece of content marketing designed to generate tech blog articles that mention “Mozilla” and “privacy” in the same sentence. It’s not an earnest attempt to offer a useful resource.

[blankface]

It's a great start - I see a lot of potential in how it has "dumbed down" the topic of consumer privacy.

I see all the flaws you're talking about, but the one thing I was looking for, and this simple delivered, is to relay the message

"Ring and Nest are bad, like really bad"

[guevara]

There's some potential here. Not every Joe Shmoe knows or even cares about privacy so dumbing it down to "Product A: Good" and "Product B: Bad" is a start at least.

[Paianni]

It could backfire, people might perceive the complexity of the content is a reflection of how dumb a company thinks its viewers are.

[sieabahlpark]

Mozilla hasn't seemed at that concerned with digital privacy for a while now.

Sure they _say_ they're for it but their actions and products have been leaning the opposite way lately.

[saagarjha]

Does anything not have a privacy policy?

[mtthwn]

Education insights policy seems to only apply to the site, not the product https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/product...

[battery_cowboy]

I could just makea policy that you have zero privacy and I'm going to sell all of the data: great now I can be on this page!