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by throwaway237683 2253 days ago
Isn't it amazing that an absolutely massive privacy invasion that is called contact tracing is already accepted as _inevitable_ if we are ever to be allowed to step out of our homes?

Talk about cynicism.

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> if we are ever to be allowed to step out of our homes?

In France, we need to fill a form every time we want to leave our homes. Any non-work related trip should be limited to one hour and 1km, at most once a day.

This was decided with no vote or concertation within a couple of days. It also applies to people who live in rural area. They even fly drones in the mountains in order to catch lonely hikers breaking the rules. It's crazy.

Worth than that, part of the population is getting obsessed about rule-breakers, as if lone cyclists suddenly became a danger for the nation. The police is flooded with calls of people denouncing cyclists, hikers, or joggers...

Funny thing, our president said in his speech that this pandemics shall not restrict our freedom.

> Worth than that, part of the population is getting obsessed about rule-breakers, as if lone cyclists suddenly became a danger for the nation. The police is flooded with calls of people denouncing cyclists, hikers, or joggers...

I've definitely noticed on Facebook, since the beginning of this, there's a lot of shaming of people doing X, virtue signalling, I'm doing this right, how about you? etc. There's a huge political correctness and peer pressure angle to the social distancing policies.

Most people seem onboard with this so far, but I think at some point, the tide will shift. There will be growing social unrest. We're a social species, we're not meant to live in isolation indefinitely.

Did they take inspiration from Italy? That's the same stuff we are subject to every day. And yes, even here we have DDR Volkspolizei-like behavior from people eager to "denounce" those who "break the rules".

The way this lockdown has been implemented is going to cause a lot of problems at the society level afterwards.

Contact tracing does not need to be a privacy invasion - the Apple/Google implementation seems very well thought out.

https://ncase.me/contact-tracing

This is what the current plan says. Once implemented, the implementation can always be tweaked. In fact it can be tweaked in the next deploy coming a minute after the first.

Do you _really_ trust Apple and Google? I'm sorry but I don't.

Australia and Singapore's governments are rolling out an app that allows them to track every person you meet with for more than a short period of time.

Why would anyone trust them to not abuse this data?

If they wanted people to volunteer information, maybe they shouldn't have repeatedly abused trust.

Singapore is often refer to as soft-authoritarian.

It's like choosing N.Korea as an example and asking why you should trust them with your civil liberties.

https://privacyinternational.org/sites/default/files/2017-12...

I'm honestly not sure what to make of the People's Action Party winning something like 80% of votes. That's a Putin level of popularity.