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That's not true, Italy's debit was slowly declining till 2009, the big financial crisis that originated in the US and it was mostly because of US bank and funds. after that there was a sharp increase but it then stabilised at least.

In my understanding there is only a blunt no to the coronabond, not a request fro more condition.

It was unfortunate that it started with Italy, and been the first with an outbreak like that in Europe push them to take brave decisions.

To me it feels more like that these countries don't want to help because they feel it's Italy's fault and they need to pay.

But what about all the money that was given for free to Germany to rebuild after the second war war, despite a long history of aggression?

It's not a surprise that people wants to break the EU, it's sad to see this project heading this way.