[rjmunro]

But that's not the question here. That's only talking about when there is a connector involved. For a zoom-zoom only chat, if my encryption works by:

* I generate a key * I give it to you and another party * You and the other party then chat through my service * I pass the messages between you but don't bother to decrypt them

Does that count as end-to-end encryption? At any time, I could decide to decrypt the message (even months later if it is logged).