[daxorid]

Feces comes in all manner of consistencies and textures. There is a range of consistencies for which bidets are wholly useless. Specifically, sticky ones. For these, you need friction from a solid, high-surface-area object.

I'm sure you've had brown streaks inside the bowl that could not be removed in N flushes, but a simple toilet brush made quick work of the matter.

To use your handwashing analogy, try removing crisco, or some other substance that adheres to your hands with a stream of water. Now try physically wiping it with a paper towel. The towel will win every time.

This is to say nothing of the fact that it's quite nice to leave the bathroom with dry hindquarters rather than a bad case of SA.

[CosmicShadow]

Dude, my basic bidet has a knob with 9 levels of pressure, but after 3 it's basically sandblasting your anus to the point it physically hurts and does damage. You can get mostly everything off, but you can still use toilet paper for clean up on the nasty ones, which shouldn't be all the time. You just reduce your TP usage by a lot and have more flexibility. Also, just wait 30 seconds after use then wipe once or twice and you are dry, ta da! Best $70 we've spent; if you don't like it, don't use it, but I guarantee it's worth the experiment if you don't have one or haven't really tried one. The bidets I refer to are the washlet type, not those weird separate sink looking ones.

[tacon]

That isn't how bidets work. I happened to get a bidet in early January, before the wave. One of the first things I learned was to let it run for awhile, maybe 20-30 seconds, and shifting around if it seems necessary. This may be TMI, but one gauge of how long to let it run is when you can relax your anal sphincter and feel the cold water slightly entering your anus. Once I stopped being in a hurry and let the water do its work, I simply never see any discoloring on the few sheets of toilet paper needed to blot dry.

[magduf]

>There is a range of consistencies for which bidets are wholly useless. Specifically, sticky ones. For these, you need friction from a solid, high-surface-area object.

You've obviously never used a proper washlet.

[hombre_fatal]

If your bidet can't wash off some sticky feces, you simply have a weak bidet. That's one of the main instances where bidets are so nice instead of wiping and wiping.

[olyjohn]

A weak bidet... Or too many Quarter Pounders in your diet.