[supermatt]

Surely there must still be a squat involved for the stand-up wipers, otherwise their butt cheeks would be compressed together. Or maybe they have different shaped butts? How would we know!?! Maybe its to do with the butt/seat ratio?

Im not sure if I could fit my hand in the hole the same time as sitting down. Definitely a squat guy, or generally a one cheek pivot, as im pretty lazy :D