[mcdevilkiller]

The thing is, your country reacted, decisions were made and things changed a lot, thus you at least can maintain some volume of classes. Imagine just thinking about something like this here in Spain. Our politicians are a joke, and society lazy and selfish.

[tirant]

I don't see Spanish politicians making more or less mistakes that other governments in Europe. Spain was one of the first countries to adopt strict measures to limit mobility of its citizens. And according to Google Mobility Analysis [1] Spaniards have mostly complied with it, staying at home at much higher rates than other neighbouring countries.

So no, I don't see a reason to say that its politicians are a joke and that Spanish society is selfish and lazy.

[1] https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

[panpanna]

Spains problem could at least partially be attributed to really bad luck (e.g. a Champions League game against an Italian team)

[jacquesm]

At least they cancelled the Fallas just in time or the disaster would have been much bigger.

[arianvanp]

Also just for perspective. The country of iceland has only 360K people. Their decisions are orders of magnitude easier to pull off.

[mikorym]

South African here. We are 60m people (plus quite a few immigrants that are not counted) and we have a complete lockdown.

[vrinstan]

What is a complete lockdown? Food workers don't go to work anymore?

[Blahah]

In SA right now I believe everything is closed to a much greater extent than most other places. For example, restaurants are not allowed to even deliver food. Only ingredients for preparing meals at home can be delivered by grocery stores. No alcohol or tobacco. Aggressive policing of the rules.

[Izkata]

> Only ingredients for preparing meals at home can be delivered by grocery stores.

So they're also closed to in-person shopping?

[mikorym]

No, that and pharmacies are the only shops that are open. You do get limited with the amount of people inside stores at any point in time. Also, you have to go to shops close to you, otherwise you'll get stopped by the police.

I think the comment was meant that if you are in the food business, the only option is to deliver ingredients. Some businesses that used to deliver vegetables to restaurants now deliver to houses instead.

But in-person shopping for food is allowed. I don't know what they will do in the medium term, because other services will have to start operating again.