[leejoramo]

While I understand your point about “Eclipse”, as a long time open source web developer, macOS user who has had to work at times with Microsoft servers, I did not think the best of “Visual Studio”

Now I spend much of my day in Visual Studio Code.

[tomp]

The difference is, Visual Studio is a world-class IDE produced by a company that sucks, while Eclipse sucks as an IDE.

[voidfunc]

> produced by a company that sucks

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

[dvfjsdhgfv]

Most prominent companies have just a criticism section. That particular company has a dedicated page. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft

[jefft255]

I worked professionally with VS doing Windows app development in C++ and I found it super powerful, especially for handling our 20 years old gigantic codebase. I don't get the hate, and I spend most of my days in Emacs nowadays (doing more research-y coding). Yes, it's huge, but it's huge because it is full of powerful tools for developers.

[skrtskrt]

I think hate for giant IDEs & their corresponding resource consumption will generally come from devs who don't need all the features, or who have the usage of the features forced on them by their org when they may not be needed or there are more lightweight alternatives outside the IDE.

It's kind of an even-more-resource-intensive Microsoft Excel - almost no one needs all the features, but they all need a different subset.

[leejoramo]

I don’t hate Visual Studio or Eclipse IDE’s

It is just that I have always done a different style of coding for over 20 years. More focused on text editors (BBEdit, Sublime, VSCode, vi, etc) and supporting command line tools.

I have seen the power that my IDE colleagues have for their use cases.

But honestly, I think many of us text editor focused developers where very skeptical of Visual Studio Code due to its VS branding. For myself, I don’t see Eclipse’s brand any better or worse than Visual Studios.

[sdegutis]

I was under the impression that VS is amazing and the best-of-the-best IDE as long as you're entirely working within the MS ecosystem and your employer is paying for all of it. I never heard anyone hating VS itself, just MS or perhaps M$.

[qwerty456127]

Visual Studio is awesome because it's a native app (which means it's fast) and it has ReSharper (which means it's smart).