[endorphone]

It is based upon Chinese data that we know is effectively junk, to which they add pure speculation: The methodology for determining those infected but not symptomatic is complete guesswork. It is invented rationalization atop garbage data.

A few countries are starting mid-sized randomized studies to look for antibodies in the general public and that will give us a much better idea of the scope.

To which it should be noted that already there is fake news spreading making broad claims that they already discovered XYZ (saw one atop Reddit).

I realize there are China sympathists on HN, however it is widely known and acknowledged that China has been very deceptive about the scale of the outbreak and the number of deaths.

[dang]

Please make your substantive points without flamey swipes about "China sympathists". Solid factual critique is welcome regardless of whose sympathies it favors, but when people start planting little swipes and booby traps against the other side, it evokes worse from others, and down we spiral. That's called nationalistic flamebait, and if you're going to post on a controversial topic, you need to clean your comment of any of that so it can be a good contribution to discussion.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html