[CamperBob2]

Your point does not stand on its own.

No, but it will when the next generation of Nazi, Stalinist, and Maoist regimes arise and gain access to the data in question because we weren't fanatical enough about E2E privacy today.

And just as Niemoeller's verse warns, by then it will be too late.

[philwelch]

There is an actual Maoist regime operating today that has access to Zoom's data. This is not a hypothetical.

[_snsh]

> And just as Niemoeller's verse warns, by then it will be too late.

But, this is just wrong. In Germany we did speak out when they came for the communists, the socialists, the unions and the jews. Niemöllers argument was relevant in 1937 when he was arrested and I appreciate that you picked up on it but frankly it's different here in Germany. We do still speak out against discrimination against all of them. Maybe E2E encryption in a chat application is just not as pressing as the things Niemöller talked about at the time.

[CamperBob2]

Maybe not. Hope you're right.