[sumofi]

Garbage :-(

Believe in Placebo believe in Nocebo as well.

Where do you draw the line? I draw it at unscientific.

What do you think has all this shit done for our society?

Reike, antivax, flat Earth, akkupunkture, traditional Chinese medicine, homeopathy, fake news.

It's all bullshit. If you as a human just believe in stuff without effidence you are dangerous.

Climate change? Oh no someone told me it's a hoax to get us to buy solar power. How do you argument with those people? You can't.

[_y5hn]

Some people have a psychological condition they get sick from things they think makes them sick, like wireless and 5G. I don't judge the merits, but it can be anything and sometimes rooted in the psychological makeup.

Your failure to argument is just a failure to listen.

[sumofi]

I did mention the Nocebo effect.

And I do think talking to others or having professional help to a normal psychologist is absolutely okay, the right thing / a good thing.

[_y5hn]

Yes, my last point was meant generally (can't edit anymore). Ie. we often tend to try to convince others with long-winded arguments, while what may be needed is just listening and learning different perspectives. It rarely works well that you can actually "convert" people. When that succeeds, the ground for critical thinking tend to get even worse, ie. in closed or cult-like groups!

More important than the positions we take, is the critical introspective thinking that leads us to along the way (free thinking).

[mcv]

I've even heard of a study that showed that stress is only bad for you if you believe that stress is bad for you.

That's an interesting one to ponder, isn't it?