[fabianmg]

As the other comment already said you're comparing apples and oranges. If you take some regions of Spain that has around the same population of Denmark for example they're more or less at the same level of Denmark. Most of the contagions in Spain are in Madrid.

[bildung]

The absolute population should only start to play a role once a significant part of the population is or has been infected. In all other cases the population density should be the only invariant factor that matters for the different infection rates.

[fodmap]

To anyone interested, these are the latest official numbers from Spain https://covid19.isciii.es/

[k__]

Germany also does better than Italy and Spain and it has a bigger population.

[Thimothy]

I keep hearing from friends in Germany that the death numbers reported are completely bollocks. They say the people who die with pre-existing conditions aggravated with the coronavirus are not counted, nor the people who are not tested after deceasing. Whereas in Italy seems everything that dies in the medical system these days is being counted.

Would love to see someone confirming or disproving this...

[k__]

I read this the other way around.

The death numbers from Italy were completly insane, because they counted in people who would have died anyway and just happened to be infected by the virus at the time of death.

Don't know which is true.

[thu2111]

Both countries are counting all infected.

https://swprs.org/rki-relativiert-corona-todesfaelle/

The President of the German Robert Koch Institute confirmed on March 20, 2020 that test-positive deceased are counted as "corona deaths" regardless of the real cause of death: "We consider a corona death to be someone who has been diagnosed with a coronavirus infection was, «said the RKI President when asked a journalist (see video below).

According to experts, the number of deaths is severely relativized, since the patients die in many cases from their previous illnesses and not from the virus. Data from Italy show that over 99% of the deceased had one or more chronic medical conditions, including cancer and heart problems, and only 12% mentioned the coronavirus on the death certificate as a cofactor.

A look at the statistics of the German test-positive deaths shows that the median age of the deceased, similar to Italy, is over 80 years and that there were usually one or more serious previous illnesses.

[threatofrain]

But there's only so much you can do to hide an influx of dead bodies; whatever the explanations are, people would notice at least this.

[fabianmg]

Germany started later, wait a few weeks and we will talk then. Spain was pretty good too when Italy was already in the hundreds of deaths.

England is looking far better than Spain and Italy NOW, but I will bet that the contagions and deaths are going to be higher ( proportionally speaking ) in a couple of months.

[k__]

The infections in Germany were the same as Italy after the same period.

Italy is getting better now but it was already a hard hit when being at the same level as Germany is now.

If the numbers are right, things are already at its worst in Germany while still being much better than Italy at its worst.

[fabianmg]

It's like the numbers in China. Who the fu--- believes that a country with 1.4 billion people and that had no previous knowledge of the virus ( like the rest of the countries ) has less contagions and deaths than USA, EU or any other country.

[k__]

Yes, I don't really know what's true.

I can just have assumptions on what is reported.

To me it seems that the US is spiraling out of control, Italy and Spain had shitty health systems so they didn't do well and Germany doing okay.

But yeah, could be totally wrong reporting.

[fabianmg]

Yeah, the worst by far...

I don't know where are you taking your data from but it seems a bit skewered.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-...

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUizkvaWsAAiENg?format=jpg&name=...

[fabianmg]

I'm talking about the shitty health systems