[pergadad]

Adult content - is this

* Just porn * Erotic content (eg lingerie shops) * Any sexual content (eg Wikipedia article on anal sex) * Or also e.g. medically relevant (sex ed, abortion provider sites, ...) * Gore, violence, videos of people dying ... * Information on or shops for drugs * Content on terrorism, weapons, manuals to build bombs * Content on Al Qaeda, Scientology and other extreme/dangerous religious stuff * ...

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[woofcat]

>Any sexual content (eg Wikipedia article on anal sex)

It's DNS level filtering so you can't handle specific content on sites at this level of the network stack.

From my quick poking of the service, it appears to filter things like sex shops, but not sites that do host mixed content. (i.e. Reddit, Imgur, etc)

To your question regarding health issues, plannedparenthood isn't blocked etc.

I sadly don't know a ton of terrorist URL's so I can't check them.

[iso1631]

> I sadly don't know a ton of terrorist URL's so I can't check them.

jihadology.net isn't blocked

https://thewire.in/uncategorised/nia-jihadology-jihadi-websi...

"The National Investigation Agency (NIA) believes that a US-based blog that collects and analyses communications from terror organisations and is used extensively for academic research was one of several “jihadi sites” that was used to radicalise a young person from West Bengal and encourage him to become an ISIS member"

Most terrorist recruitment happens on sites like instagram, facebook, tiktok, etc anyway.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/real-ira-other-dissidents-...

"The Police Service of Northern Ireland has said that it is investigating reports that social networking sites are being used to recruit children - some as young as 13 - into dissident Republican groups.

The news comes as Northern Ireland faces an upsurge in activity by dissident Republicans. Last month, for the first time in over a decade, a British soldier was killed in Northern Ireland."

[msla]

Based on observed behavior, https://www.glaad.org/ is "adult content" according to Cloudflare.

Acknowledging the existence of GLBTQ+ people is apparently "inappropriate" to them.

[mosburger]

Yeah, so is https://glsen.org ... that's a big yikes.

[jgrahamc]

Getting that fixed right now.

* Fixed.

[jgrahamc]

glaad.org should be accessible now. Sorry about that. We are working through the first public use of this and appreciate people reporting problems.

    dig +short glaad.org @1.1.1.3
    23.185.0.1

[detaro]

How did you generate/obtain the initial block list?

[ryandrake]

This is a great question. For any service like this, there should at least be transparency. As a parent, I'd be interested in understanding:

1. How the block list was initially populated

2. What clear and objective rules govern which sites should and shouldn't be included

3. Who determines those rules, and what is the process for changing the rules

4. How often are those rules proactively reviewed or changed

5. How is the block list verified as following those rules

6. What the process is when a false positive or false negative is found, reported either internally or externally

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see any of this information posted on the site.

[rrix2]

What other lifesaving resources for young queer folks are your DNS filters hiding? How did you source this block list and what sort of transparency do you expect to provide ?

[Mindwipe]

You should be ashamed of yourself for working on this product. It is evil, and will have evil consequences. It is intrinsically homophobic. It will be used to abuse vulnerable young people.

[ainiriand]

Things that are not for kids. I think it is a broad category. What element is not fitting there for you?

[Symbiote]

"Not for kids" varies widely in the western world.

The average American seems happy with plenty of violence, but any nudity at all is strictly off-limits.

I can't write "average European" for this, but most would prefer less violence and accept more nudity. There's still plenty of difference within Europe.

There are also websites that are for teenagers, which some parents would be uncomfortable with -- LGBT support and advice sites for example, or even general sex education.

[stonogo]

> I can't write "average European" for this,

You can't write "average American" for this, either.

[Symbiote]

The US has a common film rating system for all cinemas etc, which is at least some standard the whole country is implicitly supporting.

Europe doesn't, and so a film can receive different ratings in each country.

The first film I found searching for a good example of this, Eight Grade, is rated suitable for children in Luxembourg, Spain, Sweden etc, and 15 year olds in the UK and Ireland -- with the UK possibly more concerned with the language than the sex.

The US rates the film R, so 17.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7014006/parentalguide?ref_=tt_s...

[DanBC]

Eight Grade has a 15 rating in the UK.

Here's the BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) listing for it: https://bbfc.co.uk/releases/eighth-grade-2018

The ratings info says this:

> Language

> There is strong language ('fk'), as well as milder terms (for example, 'dick', 'shit', 'goddamn', 'God', 'Jesus Christ').

> Sex

> There is a scene in which a web search shows a woman explaining a sexual technique, accompanied by strong sex references.

> There is also a scene in which a young teenage girl suffers a panic attack, as well as one in which an older teenage boy tries to pressurise a younger teenage girl into having sex; however, she does not agree to this.

I don't know enough about BBFC to say which of these they place more importance upon.

(Eighth Grade is a very good film btw, and A24 are currently my favourite film production / distribution company).

[iso1631]

The average American, like the average European, has 1 breast and half a penis

[Kuraj]

Disclosure - I am not a parent.

But blocking your kid from having access to sexual education does not sit right with me, and I can imagine how they might not have proper sex ed at school or not be comfortable discussing it with their parents.

[lallysingh]

I think the answer is different if the kid is 5 or 15.

[notRobot]

5 year olds shouldn't have unrestricted access to the internet anyway. For children that young you should be using whitelists, not blacklists.

[ryandrake]

If you ask 100 parents what's not for kids, you'll get 100 different answers. That's the weakness of centrally applied moderation/curation.

[detaro]

So is wikipedia supposed to be blocked or not? Twitter? Reddit?

[snotrockets]

Stormfront isn't blocked, HRC is.

[LeoPanthera]

As far as I can tell, HRC is not blocked, assuming you are referring to the Human Right Campaign at hrc.org