[bilbo0s]

It's actually even worse than that on the ground in HK right now.

Ban on non-residents. Groups of more than 4 people are broken up. A growing skittish-ness about "foreigners", (thought to be the people who brought the second wave of infections to HK). Etc etc.

HK and Tokyo are not examples to be emulated, they are examples of what we should be trying to avoid.

[jariel]

"HK and Tokyo are not examples to be emulated, they are examples of what we should be trying to avoid."

???

Japan has one of the lowest rates of infection/million and data shows that spread is considerably slower.

Assuming the data is not fiction, obviously, we should be emulating them, not ignoring them.

FYI they also have not 'locked down'.

They're literally stopping the virus while not destroying their economies, while we are putting millions out of work while the virus expands.

[SpicyLemonZest]

It's likely, unfortunately, that the Tokyo data is fiction. There's been a significant spike in new cases starting immediately after the Olympics were officially delayed.

[jariel]

I share your skepticism, that said, it'd be nary impossible to hide hospitals overflowing with patients etc. there'd be too many whistleblowers in the medical community. So we'll have to keep an eye on Japan.