[msla]

Smaller expectations, smaller programs, so you don't learn how to structure larger programs.

It's the same as learning on GW-BASIC or equivalent: You learn some bad habits due to the environment which you must unlearn the moment you move on to a real system.

[lowbloodsugar]

Yes. That is how people learn. Or is teaching children arithmetic pointless because they won't learn how to simplify algebraic expressions? Learn the basics, then add more complexity.

The 6502 was a real system. Conversely, I'd say Visual Basic is a terrible environment and I have a few friends that made millions using it, so, not sure who gets to be the judge.