[Retric]

The Dimond Princess was evacuated. It’s passengers where unusually healthy for their age range, and while older than the general population had few people over 85 which is the most at risk population. Further, these people got world class care from experts and whatever minimal care an overworked heath system could provide.

Given all that they still had 9 deaths out of 712 infected with many still in critical condition.

[easytiger]

> It’s passengers where unusually healthy for their age range

based on what?

[Hitton]

Based on going on cruise. People who are bedridden or who can barely walk don't usually do that.

[easytiger]

You don't have to be bedridden to have lungs that are one cold away from death.

People with advanced COPD etc are everywhere but can walk short distances etc and prefer cruises to schlepping through airports and whatnot.

Knowing people who go on large long cruises they tell me they've never been on one where they didn't have at least one death. Indeed I know people with serious health issues who go on these knowing there is good on site medical care at hand.

[Retric]

Large ships have a lot of passengers. In the US Men hit a 2% chance of death at 68, which jumps to 3.6% at 75. At 85 that jumps to 9.6%, and by 95 your at 26% and the numbers keep increasing.

This means you can’t simply look at the average age to estimate risk factors. Still a 2% risk of death per year x 3000 people = 1.15 deaths per week ignoring crew. In other words what you’re describing is still a fairly heathy population.

[easytiger]

I don't know what your are trying to achieve here but the demographics of the cruise ships in absolutely no way represents society

[Retric]

I am pointing out curse ship populations are actually at lower risk than society for this specific disease. The crew is all young and it’s mostly irrelevant if someone is 4 or 40 relative to people being a heathy 80 or sick 90.

[Barrin92]

the average age on the ship was 62. In what world is the average 62 year old bedridden or too sick to go on a cruise?

[Retric]

Average is meaningless in this context. US Men hit a 2% chance of death at 68, which jumps to 3.6% at 75. At 85 that jumps to 9.6%, and by 95 your at 26% and the numbers keep increasing. A 50:50 mix of 85 year old men and 38 year old men have vastly higher risk of death than a group of just 62 year olds.

Except those higher odds of death are strongly associated with major heath issues. So, simply excluding the sickest 5% of the population makes a huge difference in survival rates.