[formerchamp]

Can we trust Italy's numbers? They're attributing any questionable death to corona to hide their embarrassing influenza death rate. This can almost explain USA's minuscule death toll at 500 (influenza season averages 200/day).

[cjhopman]

For those wondering if the people minimizing this disease as nothing more than a weaker influenza are correct, here's some data from new york's hospitals: https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-s...

Visits to emergency for Influenza-likeIllness+Pneumonia is at ~1.5x a bad flu season's peak and ~4x a normal flu season. Admissions for the same are at ~2-3x.

[taeric]

I think people are claiming it is a stronger flu, not weaker.

I think there are lots of people that don't realize how many die of the flu every year, but that is a different claim.

[bob33212]

Great dataset! does this get updated frequently? We just need 3-6 more weeks to know how this plays out. Do we hit 50x flu deaths or 5x flu deaths...

[dakrisht]

I don’t think so.

Italy is counting ALL deaths as Covid deaths.

Their Covid numbers are simply incorrect.

[bob33212]

For a week I've been wondering about Germany's numbers. Maybe they are doing something wrong, or maybe it is China and Italy that are giving us bad data.

[bencunningham]

Just curious, do you have a source?

[taeric]

Do you have charts backing that 500 a day claim handy?

[formerchamp]

~500 total. Still a far cry from business as usual flu @ 200/day.

[taeric]

That isn't a chart. Or even a reference. :(

Where are you getting these numbers?

[formerchamp]

There are several MSM sites reporting the death toll of US corona victims and they hover around 500 total at the moment. Note that they're very liberally grouping deaths into the corona bucket so I expect the number to be much lower in a post mortem. It's going to be like Trump's 2016 win where everyone was left scratching their heads and wondering how their math/fake science failed them.

My flu death rate of 200/day comes from the CDC's last year figure of 34000 / 6 months (a really stretched flu season).

[taeric]

Thanks for referencing the cdc numbers. Google quickly confirmed that, and is what I was asking for. I hoped to have it per month, but don't see that immediately.

Any chance you know where to find this for other countries?