[gambiting]

>>What exactly is irrational about a kid with 300k in debt and no job hoping that a collapse could lead to a real future for himself and/or his kids?

For the start.....everything. No matter how much you're in debt and without a job you're still immesurably better than after actual collapse of the society. Unless your plan really is to establish yourself as some kind of warlord with guns and have others serve you. Which is about as realistic as Mad Max is. There's literally nothing rational about it, not even as a fantasy unless you're 12 and don't understand how the world works and what would actually happen if the societes collapsed in some kind of post apocalyptic scenario.

[SereneT]

Totally Roman civilization collapsed in britian sometime around early 5th century The next time anybody heard of central heating or plumbing on that island was roughly 1500 years later As an electrician I'm always amazed at the Wonder of how it all works, and at the blissful ignorance of many regarding just how much hard work and professional knowledge is involved in, you know such banalaties as keeping the lights on, the water running, the garbage disappearing, the shelves stocked...