[aquadrop]

These don't look that bad, but what's describe in a tweet (tracking focus app etc) is much worse, it doesn't seem to be in the privacy policy though (or they masked it?). So where's the information about focused window come from?

[neonate]

Your name, physical address, email address, phone number, employment, credit card, Facebook profile, IP address, MAC address, device ID...is not that bad?

[aquadrop]

These are technical details for normally working with the app. They charge you, so they need you name and credit card. You ask for a support, so they need your ip etc. They list what they may gather, because privacy policy should cover everything, doesn't mean they require all that info at once. I also didn't provide them many of these items.

[manigandham]

That data is either required to run or provided to them by you directly.

[gsich]

MAC address? Unless they have some Layer2 detection shit running they don't need that. And besides, they wouldn't need it on their servers.

[manigandham]

They have to name every possible thing they can potentially receive. Mac addresses are available as part of networking details if you're using their desktop software. Zoom is enterprise video conferencing that only recently gained attention for average consumers.

[gsich]

>They have to name every possible thing they can potentially receive.

Then they are missing a lot.

[manigandham]

Like what?

[neonate]

I haven't provided them with most of that.

[manigandham]

Then they don't have it.

[neonate]

How do you know that? These statements leave other possibilities open:

It covers all Personal Data that you affirmatively provide during your interactions with us, information that we automatically collect when you interact with our Products, and information that we collect about you from third parties

Whether you have Zoom account or not, we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise interact with our Products.

[manigandham]

It says "when you use or otherwise interact with our Products."

It's not unreasonable. I'm not sure what your claim is here, because you'll find this language in every single online business. You realize Zoom sells enterprise video conferencing right? They have no use for your data otherwise.

[Turing_Machine]

How are they supposed to charge you for the service without your credit card billing information?

How is it supposed to work at all without your IP address?

[deathhand]

There is a feature for when doing webinars that can track focus:

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115000538083-Atten...

[vpzom]

That's awful.

[riteshpatel]

It only tracks if the Zoom window has focus, not via facial recognition. How is that bad?

[gsich]

What value is that if I have multiple monitors?