[lurquer]

The medical system in Italy sucks. The northern region sees a scandalously high number of elderly die every day in the winter. Upwards of 200 a day. The issue is political.

Covid is a convenient cover for the scandal. If you die in Lombardy -- for any reason -- you are listed as a covid patient. It's fraud.

Plain and simple.

(Incidentally, its not all of Italy... just the northern region.)

The number of tests is equally bullshit. As another poster in this thread alluded to -- and I think there is a link up there -- the number is an 'estimate'.

[denulu]

Normally it's 250 deaths > 65 years per week, which would make it 36 per day

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/influenza/FluNews18-19#mortalit...

[lurquer]

From the source, translated:

"During the sixteenth week of 2019 mortality was lower than expected, with a daily average of 190 deaths compared to the expected 200."

Read Italian news from the past few years regarding then northern region; the numbers of geriatric deaths -- far in excess of other EU members -- has been a long-running scandal.

More data here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S120197121...

I trust you've read the recent Telegraph article revealing that only 12% of reported Italian covid deaths could be directly attributed to covid.

But, I'm not that concerned about persuading you. If you wish to believe there is something unique about northern Italy -- while 100 miles to the south, east, west, and north the mortality rates are utterly different, so be it.