[dakrisht]

I see the data. There is a surge, obviously.

However, this assumes the current surge deaths are 100% SARS-Cov2 confirmed infections.

They aren’t. At least not 100%

Assumption can be made “atypical, bad flu season” but safer bet is on “newly discovered virus out of China that did x and y and z damage over there.”

While both theories are just that, theories. There is no empirical data which PROVES x-cases and y-surge is directly related to a confirmed SARS-Cov2 pathogen confirmed by RT-PCR and antibody test.

The Italian data is wrong period. Why or how is another debate.

[diracwasright]

All dead patients were tested and they were positive. The Italian ISS is reporting that those patients went full ICU with the most common symptoms associated with Covid-19, notably respiratory failure, then "danno renale acuto", "danno miocardico acuto" and "dovrainfezione", which I'm not going to translate for you, and this is happening regardless of their pre-existing conditions. There's no easy assumption except yours. Stop blaming italian professionals and I invite you to visit our government websites for the details, for which I'm not going to provide a link for you. Also, there is no guessing game as to who is affected by the virus. Again, you need not to mix your prejudice against Italians with the emergency we are having.

[easytiger]

> All dead patients were tested and they were positive

Good to hear. Is there an official statement on that?

> Also, there is no guessing game as to who is affected by the virus.

In what sense do you mean? No guessing about what?