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by hannob 2288 days ago
You may want to read this: http://cmajopen.ca/content/6/1/E31.full

I don't know if Chloroquine works, but I'm pretty sure Chloroquine is no parachute (i.e. it's not a drug where the benefits are so obvious that it doesn't need a proper trial).

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Nice article, thank you. Still it doesn't adresse the question: statistically, the benefits can sometimes be so obvious that no randomized trial is needed. RCT and large series are needed when trying to prove some minimal effects. The article is more like a sociological study to say invoking this parachute argument is no definite proof based on cases where the parachute argument was invoked and in retrospective was misguided.

That is very true. But unless we are to argue that the virus is not what causes the disease, using the viral load as a proxy for clinical status and contagiousness is acceptable. And unless the effect is small enough that sample selection can affect the conclusion, it doesn't matter much in practice.

I meean, for chloroquine, we have studies showing non inferiority and strong effects. We will not know if it works according to modern standards of statistics using direct survival statistics for another two weeks at best. What to do in the meantime?

In this article, the comparison to flossing in the intro is not good: lack of flossing does not entail mortality rate >.5%.

And all the other approaches selected for study do not feature infectious agents creating a risk of death, so the conclusions of the article are not very transposable to the problem here. For chemotherapy, surgery, etc. yes, they have a point. For microbiology, no.

Everybody seems to be doing armchair critique of the methodology used. I respect the desire to understand, but I believe the critique stands: we do not have RCT for parachutes. And at the moment, we do not have RCT for chloroquine either. We have a long experience of using it for other diseases. It's an old drug with well known side effects and toxicity.

If you are infected, you are free to wait until there is a trial to accept the drug. Yet, based on the information available, I still think it is a wrong decision, akin to asking for a RCT on parachutes aboard a burning plane.