[surewhynat]

These are nonsense conspiracy theories. South Korea's Numbers are also too low?

No.

Our response in the west is just terrible because of all the political nonsense, the fact that scientists don't influence our countries, and most people are just too stupid or too spoiled to listen. Look at our countries, have you seen the kids partying in Miami? The people still protesting in France? How about everyone still going out for dinner?

Don't go blaming other countries' good performance for our crappy one.

Edit: on that note, other countries have been testing people on entry for months on entry. Russia has been testing people on entry. The Philippines tests everyone on the public transportation.

[chaostheory]

It’s not a conspiracy theory and I specifically said SK’s numbers are more trustworthy. Historically, mainly due to authoritarianism, Chinese provincial governors have a strong tendency to lie with better numbers to avoid being sacked by Beijing. This has happened numerous times already... and before your allusions to racism get more pronounced, I am Chinese. Their numbers also don’t conform to infection simulations pre-lockdown

There are also many Chinese accounts of thousands of bodies just being cremated without being tested. to be fair, Italy is now supposedly experiencing the same thing now due to hospitals being overwhelmed.