|
|
|
|
|
|
by xiaolingxiao
2281 days ago
|
|
|
Hey Stefan it’s very nice to meet you! I spent many years at GRASP lab at UPenn and most of my friends from there are at Waymo/Nuro/Cruise now. I do not work at a self-driving car company, but I 100% agree with your sentiment regarding the importance of assessing safety, this has obvious implications in how these cars are insured, and therefore priced and financed. On a separate note, I met a long haul trucker/Russian immigrant in a hacker hostel in Mountain View, and his story was eye opening. He said it was the worst job he ever had, and he was “treated like an animal”. So alleviating his problem is very worthwhile in so many ways. As for questions: 1. Referencing page 5 of your VSSA (1), how were you able to quantify "When weather, traffic or other conditions made driving unsafe." It seems like a tricky problem because this region of the ODD is not discrete such as {warehouse, ramp, highway} but rather depends on the quality of your cv stack as well? 2. In hindsight and with the company behind you, do you think it make sense for each car companies to do self reporting? Or should there be some sort of government oversight/technical validation process done by external 3rd party? 3. I would love to chat more! It must be a very emotional time for you, so I would understand if you do not wish to speak about it. But if you do, could we set up a time at lingxiao@seas.upenn.edu? [1] https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/599d39e79f59ae00017e2107/5c1... |
|
|
3) Sure! It isn't too hard to figure out how to email me, so send me a note or DM on twitter or LinkedIn or whatever.
2) AV has been a great testcase for federalism, and I think we've seen different regimes work differently. For the stage that industry is at, I think that insurance requirements is sufficient (insurance carriers have the sophistication to figure out if you're being unsafe). California's regime is overly-prescriptive in such a way that it confuses things more than it improves safety.
To be clear - if we were closer to deployment I'd advocate for a way tighter regulatory regime.
1) We figured out a programmatic way to measure ODD. Trying to specify all versions of ODD is a fools errand, and you're right that it would change a lot by how good you stack is.
ODD = Operational Design Domain. The conditions your system can drive safely in - rain, snow, sunshine, glare, high traffic, no traffic, pedestrians, etc ad infinitum