[llamataboot]

maybe examine the prevalence of all those conditions in the US?

[runin2k1]

"More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions"

What were the most common pre-existing conditions?

"More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease."

How common are those conditions in the United States?

High Blood Pressure - 1 in 3

Diabetes - 9 in 100

Heart Disease - 1 in 10

[s1artibartfast]

I would be careful not to confuse correlation with causation here. Most old people have medical conditions. For example, about 75% of older people have high blood pressure [1] so seeing a 75% rate in the virus fatalities should not mean much.

I suspect age and immune function drive mortality, and the other factors are merely along for the ride.

[1] https://www.uptodate.com/contents/treatment-of-hypertension-...

[listsfrin]

When I studied medicine 15 years ago 130-139 mm Hg was not considered high blood pressure. We were young students and we were toying everyday measuring our blood pressure. Most males had over 130.

It seems times are changing: https://www.cdc.gov/bloodpressure/facts.htm

We have "evolved"!

[runin2k1]

Your initial proposal was that most of the Covid related deaths were due underlying conditions.

Now you propose that the underlying condition most present isn't really a condition.

[listsfrin]

You made me curios about it so I did a quick internet search for what is considered high blood pressure in Italy.

I found https://www.epicentro.iss.it/ben/2002/settembre02/2_en (the same health institute that provided the study I was talking about above). I quote:

"The prevalence of borderline hypertension was calculated by determining the number of persons who had systolic pressures between 140 and 160 mm Hg or who had diastolic pressures between 90 and 95 mm Hg."

This is more inline with what I've been thought in med school in my time.