[mistrial9]

.. because when I met him personally at a hack event in the 1980s, he was obviously in the "dominant and loud" mode, and directly commanded anyone within earshot, at most opportunities.. later, it turned out he forked his company and left the people who built Mathematica out of future profits. Silicon Valley bred people like that .. it is still common in some environments.

[jjtheblunt]

My grad math advisor was one of the folks who wrote significant parts in Urbana of the symbolic core; the behind the scenes team got legal settlements after that strange move. He's not from Silicon Valley; I think he'd done some early prototyping and coding himself while at CalTech (in Lisp if i recall) then came to Urbana-Champaign as a research prof, and got the team of several to build it out. [ I've been using it since 1988, and love it. ]