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by piiswrong 2281 days ago
But nationalizing private business is the symbol of communism! How dare you say such a thing!
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Please give some examples where this has worked out well.
Everyone is a socialist during a financial crisis.
but after the crisis do you give it back to the shareholders and let them brood for the next crisis, or do you remain a socialist forever?
Public goods must be protected. USPS does pretty well IMHO, as a similar example. No reason to recapitalize with public shareholders if you don’t need them. The Fed doesn’t have them (their shares are unique and essentially non transferable).
USPS lost $8.8 billion in fiscal year 2019.
Public goods don’t have to break even or generate a profit. They still deliver my mail like clockwork, and we’ll cover any pension obligations with taxes if there’s a shortfall because of Congressional action (which is why USPS loses money, due to Congress having unreasonable pension funding requirements specifically for USPS).

If you require a bailout, you had your chance as a for profit concern. Entirely reasonable to run services at a loss as a government entity. Some services are simply expenses.

> They still deliver my mail like clockwork

"Makes the trains run on time" is a pretty weak argument when the alternative (e.g. UPS) has a demonstrated ability to do the same thing without losing billions of dollars.

> If you require a bailout, you had your chance as a for profit concern. Entirely reasonable to run services at a loss as a government entity.

Isn't this a double standard? A private entity loses money and requires a taxpayer bailout once, they've had their chance. A government entity loses money and requires a taxpayer bailout every year, cost of doing business?